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Bhikkhunis in Thai Monastic Education

By Bhante Sujato
Originally published on 18/6/2008

In the debate about bhikkhuni ordination, information plays a key role. We have made
substantial strides in our understanding of Buddhism in history, the relation between
different Buddhist traditions, and so on. Unfortunately, little of this information has
permeated into the tradition Sangha bodies. It seems to be assumed that organizations like
the Thai Sangha are a preserve of profound Dhamma knowledge, full of experts who are
thoroughly versed in the issues. But this is, alas, far from the case. The reality is that the
vast majority of Thai monks recieve no more than a basic Buddhist education, which is
largely based on a set of textbooks compiled around a hundred years ago.

At that time, Thai Buddhism was being rapidly modernized, and the leaders of the Thai
Sangha, were foremost in promoting a re-evaluation of their own tradition based on the
earliest teachings available in the texts. This tradition was initiated by Prince Mongkut and
carried on by Prince Vajirañāṇa during their time in robes. By rediscovering the central
importance of the Pali Canon, and promoting a rational, non-superstitious approach to
Dhamma, they laid the foundations for modern Thai Buddhism. However, they had access
to only a small sector of the Buddhist scriptures, and our textual, archaeological, and
historical understanding has developed rapidly since then. But due to the royal prestige of
these texts, it has proven almost impossible to update them. Thus the Sangha today clings
to the outdated and often incorrect conclusions of these texts, while ignoring the spirit of
inquiry and exploration on which they were founded.

In the debate on bhikkhunis, the following passage stands as one of the most influential
statements on the matter. It is found in Prince Vajirañāṇa’s Vinayamukha, the basic Vinaya
text learnt by all Thai monks. Later, I will show how its conclusions about bhikkhunis are
wrong, but we must appreciate that this criticism is entirely in the spirit of the text itself.
The text does not assert a dogmatic ideology, it bases itself on reasons and tries to establish
a historical case. We are able to criticize it from a rational perspective precisely because the
text itself is rational. But, as the Buddha said, what is hammered out by reason is not
necessarily correct.

Vinayamukha vol.III Standard text
Liengchieng Press, Bangkok, pg. 170.

The Bhikkhuni Sangha started in the middle of the Buddha’s time. But at the time of
the great passing away of the Buddha there was no mention of the bhikkhunis. That
time it was a great event, so if the bhikkhunis still existed they should have come
for the cremation, or been part of the celebration of the relics. With this evidence,
bhikkhunis might have already disappeared after the Buddha passed away for a
hundred years.

There was a story [from the time of the Second Council, 100 years after the
Buddha’s parinibbana] of Ven. bhikkhuni Nandā Therī, King Kālaśoka’s sister, who
informed him that the Vajjiputtaka monks were propagating wrong understanding
[of the Vinaya].

Then there was a long story during King Aśoka’s reign in B.E.236 when
Saṅghamittā, King Asoka’s daughter, was ordained as bhikkhuni. The King sent her
to Sri Lanka to establish the bhikkhuni Sangha there. At the same time
Mahindathera, King Asoka’s son, was already there establishing Buddhism.
1Saṅghamittā Therī gave ordination to Sri Lankan women with princess Anulā as
their chief.

Regarding these two stories, Ven. Nandā Therī’s story was not found in the Pali
Sattasatikkhandaka [the canonical source for the Second Council], but in the
Mahavaṁsa, which was written after the commentaries [in the fifth century C.E.].

The story of Saṅghamittā is told in the [Vinaya] commentary [Samantapāsādikā].
There were no names of the accompanying bhikkhunis, unlike in the case of
Mahinda [who traveled to Sri Lanka with a group of monks whose names are given].
It was recorded only that King Aśoka Mahārāja invited the Therī and her followers
aboard the ship. There was no details of her followers, number of bhikkhunis or
their names. If she went alone how can she give ordination? Also the commentator
did not think that one bhikkhuni cannot give ordination every year. With this
reasoning we cannot depend on this evidence. So it is agreed that the bhikkhunis
have disappeared since then. [Translation supplied by Bhikkhuni Dhammanandā.]

This passage would appear on the surface to be in consistent: for if bhikkhunis had
disappeared by the time of the parinibbana, how could they have survived until the time of
Aśoka? However, while the reasoning used is not always entirely clear, it seems to me that
this passage develops a perfectly rational argument. I think we can rephrase the logic like

The canonical texts suggest that the bhikkhunis had disappeared even by the time of the
parinibbana. There are, however, occasional references to bhikkhunis in later literature.
But these passages occur in texts that include much unhistorical information, and so may
well be incorrect. Nevertheless, if the bhikkhunis did survive until the time of Aśoka, then
the fact that Saṅghamittā did not have a full Sangha to perform ordination means that the
lineage died out then.

Let us take this one piece at a time.

1. The bhikkhunis were not present at the Buddha’s parinibbana.

The Mahāparinibbāna Sutta, the standard Pali text on the Buddha’s passing away, does not
mention the bhikkhunis being present at the Buddha’s deathbed. The Vinayamukha, while it
is not completely clear, seems to think that this shows that the bhikkhunis had already
disappeared. But this conclusion is obviously wrong, not just because of the many
references to bhikkhunis through history, but even in the Mahāparinibbāna Sutta itself.

The first reference to bhikkhunis in the Mahāparinibbāna Sutta is where the Buddha
mentioned a bhikkhuni who had recently died, Nandā, and praised her as a non-returner.

More importantly, it is recorded that the Buddha said to Māra:

I shall not come to my final passing away, Evil One, until my bhikkhus and
bhikkhunis, laymen and laywomen, have come to be true disciples — wise, well
disciplined, apt and learned, preservers of the Dhamma, living according to the
Dhamma, abiding by the appropriate conduct, and having learned the Master’s
word, are able to expound it, preach it, proclaim it, establish it, reveal it, explain it
in detail, and make it clear; until, when adverse opinions arise, they shall be able to
refute them thoroughly and well, and to preach this convincing and liberating
Dhamma. [This and following passages from the Mahāparinibbāna Sutta are from Sister Vajira & Francis
Story’s translation at]

Thus not only were bhikkhunis present, but they were an essential part of his dispensation.
The Buddha would only pass away when the bhikkhunis were well established. This
statement, found widely in the different versions of this text, was said to have been made
by the Buddha shortly after his Awakening. It was his stated aspiration, right from the start
of his teaching, to establish the bhikkhunis.

A little later the Sutta refers to bhikkhunis yet again as a positive and essential sector of
his dispensation:

But, Ananda, whatever bhikkhu or bhikkhuni, layman or laywoman, abides by the
Dhamma, lives uprightly in the Dhamma, walks in the way of the Dhamma, it is by
such a one that the Tathagata is respected, venerated, esteemed, worshipped, and
honored in the highest degree. Therefore, Ananda, thus should you train
yourselves: ‘We shall abide by the Dhamma, live uprightly in the Dhamma, walk in
the way of the Dhamma.’

And a little further down the same theme recurs:

These, Ananda, are the four places that a pious person should visit and look upon
with feelings of reverence. And truly there will come to these places, Ananda, pious
bhikkhus and bhikkhunis, laymen and laywomen, reflecting: ‘Here the Tathagata
was born! Here the Tathagata became fully enlightened in unsurpassed, supreme
Enlightenment! Here the Tathagata set rolling the unexcelled Wheel of the
Dhamma! Here the Tathagata passed away into the state of Nibbana in which no
element of clinging remains!’ And whoever, Ananda, should die on such a
pilgrimage with his heart established in faith, at the breaking up of the body, after
death, will be reborn in a realm of heavenly happiness.

And once more:

Capable and judicious is Ananda, bhikkhus, for he knows the proper time for
bhikkhus to have audience with the Tathagata, and the time for bhikkhunis, the
time for laymen and for laywomen; the time for kings and for ministers of state; the
time for teachers of other sects and for their followers.

It is perfectly obvious that, according to the Pali version of the Mahāparinibbāna Sutta,
bhikkhunis existed at the time of the Buddha’s parinibbana and, moreover, were regarded
as a regular, essential part of the Buddha’s community. The fact that no bhikkhunis appear
in the text as actually present at the Buddha’s passing away must be due to other factors.
Perhaps the redactors of the texts, who were of course monks, simply didn’t mention the
bhikkhunis. Or perhaps there were no bhikkhunis in the nearby districts who could be
summoned in time.

A search of the (very many) alternative versions of this Sutta available in Chinese,
Tibetan, and Sanskrit would also be necessary before reaching any firm conclusions. But,
sadly, hardly any monks in Thailand even know of the existence of these texts. For them
anything outside the Pali Canon is ‘Mahayana’ and therefore wrong and irrelevant. This
naïve, sectarian misuse of textual criticism is, again, largely based on 19 th Century ideas.
Mongkut and Vajirañāṇa, with their western-influenced education, introduced the notion
of a skeptical scrutiny of the received texts. But this was based on the state of knowledge of
Buddhist texts in the wider academic sphere at the time. The Chinese and Tibetan texts had
hardly been read by any Westerners, and it was widely believed, even among Western
scholars, that the Mahayana traditions were nothing more than later degenerations. The
course of 20 th century scholarship has systematically corrected this bias, while retaining
respect for the Pali Canon. Yet the existence of several different versions of the Vinaya, of
3several collections parallel to the Pali Nikāyas, of large quantities of manuscript material
recovered from Central Asia and elsewhere, has had no practical effect on the ideological
stand that regards the Pali Canon as the be-all and end-all of Buddhism.

2. Bhikkhuni Nandā’s story is not mentioned in the canonical version of the Second

This is true, but we cannot use this as an argument to say the bhikkhunis did not exist.
There are many details of the later accounts that are not mentioned in the canon. King
Kāḷaśoka is not mentioned in the canonical account, and we do not infer from this that
there were no kings at the time. Nor is there any mention in the canon of the recitation of
the scriptures, or of any connection between the Vajjiputtakas and the Mahāsaṅghikas, and
so on. That does not stop these ‘facts’ being repeated endlessly in Theravadin accounts.

It is entirely appropriate that the canonical accounts do not mention the bhikkhunis, for
the Second Council was essentially a disciplinary action taken against the miscreant
Vajjiputtaka monks, and bhikkhunis would not be present at such a meeting. King Kāḷaśoka,
Bhikkhuni Nandā, and the rest, entered the story much later.

But the story of Nandā shows the influence of bhikkhunis in ancient Indian Buddhism.
Whether or not the story is historical it shows that bhikkhunis could been seen in such a
powerful role.

3. Saṅghamittā had no bhikkhuni companions, therefore could not have done bhikkhuni
ordination correctly.

This conclusion was made on the basis of the Samantapāsādikā and also the Mahāvaṁsa.
The Vinayamukha acknowledges that the Samantapāsādikā does indeed mention that
Saṅghamittā traveled with a group, but points out that there is no evidence that they were
bhikkhunis. But the Mahāvaṁsa is just a later retelling of the Dīpavaṁsa, which was earlier
and more historically reliable. [Elsewhere (Sects & Sectarianism) I have criticized certain aspects of the Dīpavaṁsa, but as I made clear there, this was only relevant for the earlier sections, not the events in Sri Lanka.] The Dīpavaṁsa does, indeed, mention the names of Saṅghamittā’s companions: ten bhikkhunis, all arahants with psychic powers. [Dīpavaṁsa 13.2.77-8: Saṅghamittā mahāpaññā uttarā ca vicakkhaṇā/Hemā ca māsagallā ca aggimittā mitāvadā/Tappā pabbatachinnā ca mallā ca dhammadāsikā/Ettakā tā bhikkhuniyodhūtarāgā samāhitā. Retrieved from: English translation:
Hermann Oldenburg, 3rd reprint, New Delhi 2001. p.205 chapter 18.11-13.] But this text
was little known in Thailand.

Given the evident concern shown by Mahinda for the Vinaya, it is inconceivable that
ordination would be given without bhikkhunis present. But the text as it has come down to
us is far more interested in weaving legends around the bringing of the Bodhi tree than
about describing Vinaya procedures. Arguments from absence are always dubious, as what
is left out is determined entirely by the redactors.

Not only this, but the Samantapāsādikā itself mentions bhikkhunis several times. The
names of Saṅghamittā’s preceptor and teacher are given. And at a great assembly, it is said
that 9 600 000 bhikkhunis were present. [The Chinese Sudassanavinayavibhāsā has the more modest, if still improbable, number of 960 000.] An impossible number, no doubt, but a clear indication of a substantial bhikkhuni community.


All the above evidence was available to the author of the Vinayamukha, and there is no
excuse for not taking it into account. However, since that time substantial new evidence has
come to light. The most substantial evidence of all is the Aśokan edicts, which do mention bhikkhunis; in fact, they always mention bhikkhus and bhikkhunis together. According to the research of Gregory Schopen, the inscriptions found in India mention bhikkhunis roughly the same number of times as bhikkhus, and they play similar roles, including being
teachers, reciters of texts, sponsors of major building projects, etc. Similarly, throughout
the scriptures of Indian Buddhism, bhikkhunis play their role, even if it is a quiet one.

Of course, we could not expect that the author of the Vinayamukha would have known of
such matters. Nor could he have known of the historical records telling of the transmission
of the bhikkhuni lineage from Sri Lanka to China; or of the fact that the Chinese
Dharmaguptaka Vinaya lineage is essentially identical to the Theravada; or of the
substantial evidence for bhikkhunis in Thai history. Nor, sadly enough, could we expect him
to be responding in a meaningful way to the spiritual aspirations of women in our modern
times. It seems that he, like many in Thai Buddhism, believed that the higher spiritual
attainments were not available in our degenerate times, and his main goal was to construct
a religious basis to support Thai nation-building.

But we can, and should, expect that today’s Sangha should know these things. The tragedy is not that a Dhamma book was written that contains obvious mistakes; this is normal. The tragedy is that the mistakes are perpetuated again and again, without investigation or revision. The spirit of inquiry and reason on which the 19 th Century Thai Sangha reforms were based has disappeared. The criticisms I am making are nothing new or unusual. They have been voiced many times by Thai monks and within the Thai community. But the Thai Sangha no longer appears to be capable of reforming itself to become relevant for our times. The spirit of reform which inspired prince Vajirañāṇa has long departed from the institutions that he set up. [See, for example, Thanissaro, ‘The Traditions of the Noble Ones’,; Phra Paisan Visalo, ‘When Buddhist Monks Cheat in Exams’,,6289,0,0,1,0 .] Today, we must seek the Dhamma elsewhere.